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opensource energy-saving method for AC motors.

Posted on May 23rd, 2007 by esaruoho : a human archive esaruoho
Rotoverter Energy saving method

my mates are going on australian national TV to announce this opensource energy saving modification for existing AC motors. here are three videos that they have created. i hope that there are people on zaadz who are electrically inclined, and can make heads or tails of this modification information. it is not hard to do - but it does go a bit further than electrical engineering (i.e. , just yesterday, there was a big shoutmatch between an electrical engineer of 30 years - and a person who was trying to tell him about this method. he was having none of it. this is what the open-minded scientific community has given us. people who will not listen, will not pay attention, and who will call it a scam and become hostile and offended. it is a real shame. i know the guy in the video, and i trust that he wouldnt let himself be scammed. they have been building these things for a year and a half - and are trying to raise awareness of the RotoVerter. there is a mailinglist where anyone can go in with a motor and its details, and they will be helped to modify it for energy-savings.  in this current world, it is extremely important to save energy in any kind of a way possible - the RotoVerter modification is one such method. please, if you have a junkyard AC motor, just wire it up with the capacitors, as detailed in a picture (look below the 2 videos). there is also a way to extract energy from a RotoVerter, and the schematics i have also linked. enjoy. please. if you know anyone who can build these things, get in touch with them. i am posting this with the full belief that this is not a scam. people will tell you that it is. it is up to you to believe either hostile hearsay (them) or trust in people (which is what im doing). i have been trying to understand how this method works for a while - there is a lot of jargon involved. but people are making working applications, are saving energy, and some have extracted more energy out of the RotoVerter than is going in. contrary to popular belief, this claim does not mean you can take out your knives and guns and start carving holes into people. it means that anyone who has a lab, can build this, it wont cost a lot, and they can verify for themselves. if they have trouble, they can mail the EVGray list on yahoogroups. PLEASE HELP.
Rotoverter Drill test


here is a simple explanation schematic as to how to wire a normal AC motor.
http://peswiki.com/images/9/92/RonPRVcircuit.JPG

here is the resonance extraction circuit details, construction information, and required material. some have estimated it will cost 19$ to get the components.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter:Replications:NeonPeak
a photo of the circuit: http://panacea-bocaf.org/res/Default/20070514_144025125.png

yet every time i try and get in touch with a person who might build it - i am met with total and absolute resistance. total hostility. a friend of mine was building a RotoVerter, and told his boss about it - his boss said he was a fool, got him fired from his job. the rumours of the fired person building a RotoVerter proceeded to a client of the company, the client withdrew the contract with the company,  and the boss SUED the person trying to build a RotoVerter. the police CONFISCATED all of his motors, and all the equipment this fired-person had with him. think of it just for a while. who was it that benefited from this? i FIRMLY BELIEVE it should be LEGAL and ALLOWED to pursue fancy dreams and fantasies, without getting thrown out of your job  and  without getting your equipment removed. seriously. they had no right to do that.  please understand that this should be replicated and verified as working by as many people as possible.

the panacea-bocaf team have also managed to make a motor run on solar panels. this is nothing new. EXCEPT: there is a specific amount of solar panels and DC current that you must normally generate to run a motor. with the rotoverter modification, you can run a motor on LESS solar panels than  the normal amount.  this also gets hostility and attacks "because i as a 30year experienced electrical engineer say: this is impossible. there must be hidden batteries". -- yet they are making it work. there are details on how to do this, at:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter:Replications:Panacea
there is even a video of the functioning solar panel setup, at:
Rotoverter (RV) Energy Saver Video


one must always look at whats going on with these types of ideas. before yelling scam/hoax, please think for a while. are they selling something? no, they are giving it for free. do they stand to benefit somehow? no, except the global community stands to benefit, via energy-savings. do they want you to build one? of course they do, and they wish you would.  will they help you build one if you give them the info on a motor you have discovered from a scrapyard, or which you have at home? yes they will. will they charge for this help? no they wont.

understand that when you research the RotoVerter, you will come across hostile trolls, and people who claim they have put 85,000$  and not managed any power savings or overunity. there is another laboratory that claim they put millions of dollars into research.  
THEY NEVER CONSULTED THE LIST FULL OF PEOPLE READY TO HELP.
they did it their own way - without asking for help. always ask for help if you are not sure what you are doing.
then they come and attack the RotoVerter community, saying, we put millions of dollars into it, this doesnt work - when they didnt even understand what they were doing. those millions of dollars could have been used to fly just one  member of the rotoverter community to the place, and an investment of a couple of hundred dollars to purchase a motor that was probably lying around gathering dust anyway.
Hector D. Perez Torres  disclosed this device in 1999. its 2007 - yet still this is being ignored by the "free energy" community. if you start up a forum discussion about it, people just go "mr. torres is a fake." "85,000$ invested and no go!" "millions invested!" "torres doesnt know what he is talking about". these are the simplest things to say, and the easiest to stop people from listening. yet it is a WORKING TECHNOLOGY - but with something that is missing from typical electrical engineering.

it would appear, to me, at least, that  running the motor in a "semi-resonant mode" has something to do with this. they always throw around terms like  stochastic resonance, etc. but i cant say i understand it.
if you are in a place or a space to help, if you have the equipment and want to give it a shot, THEN PLEASE DO. i beg of you. neither i or the rotoverter community are selling anything. we dont stand to benefit from this. the WORLD stands to benefit from this.

it is an opensource disclosure of a technological modification, with off-the-shelf  equipment (motors, capacitors, wire, and some components for resonance extraction).

dont just approach an electrical engineer and have him go "ah its a scam". build it yourself, if at all you can. seriously. what have we, as a whole planet, got to lose?

people have built lawnmowers using the RotoVerter technology. only recently were there some statistics of this, posted on overunity.com . yet nobody on overunity.com has ventured out to BUILD one. why is this? who are you, or anyone else electronically/electrically inclined, waiting for?

its still quite a bit away before there is a professionally made  documentary about this. amateur video is all that we can have for now. this could change at any point in time - but panacea and ashtweth (the person on the videos) are doing the best they can to make this more known. they are going on the television with this. how many will build the rotoverter modification after that?
seriously,  how many of you have heard the word "energy savings" bandied around with "buy a new lamp" etc? what about motors? ENERGY CAN BE SAVED USING MOTORS.
THIS IS THE MODIFICATION WITH WHICH TO DO IT. you dont have to BUY a new motor, you can use an old motor ( look at these replications, do they look shining new to you?
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter:Replications:Konehead:RV-Prony-Brake-Test
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Transverter:Replications:Jini
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter:Replications:Mkruemel2004
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter:Replications:RupertNZ
 )
heres some quotes from the www.overunity.com thread:

"Yes, it seems Brian is just charging up once its capacitors before starting the lawn mower and then can mowe about 25 to 45 minutes on this one cap charge. Normally, when he would not have this rotoverter feedback, the caps would just only last for 4.5 seconds on the mower ! That is amazing !"

here is a response from the EVGray group (and Hector Perez Torres) to this posting by Harti Berlin (on overunity)

hartiberlin>That is amazing !
responder#2>how is this possible?!?!
hector>Energy saving power management technology .. EV Gray group is in Aplications phase of ZPE-OU technology .... we generated overunity long ago and began aplications in energy savings,as all group got in UNITY "overunity" became a matter of time to be demostrated ,the theory additions are found in the magnificient compilations and work done by thoose replicating this methods and adding theirs and the gained expertize. Overunity is just transformation and is a variant of thermodynamicaly justified reasoning (book justified). If hurricanes are energy transformation engines why we cant copy naturea and create energetic copy? The answer is evident .  Work with nature (resonance) and tune to its energy .

-- now, nature and resonance - at least I am interested. i was watching a documentary on water and nature, and in it Joseph Bender claimed that "nature always works in resonance". Viktor Schauberger always said: "comprehend and copy (nature)". Tesla spoke of "harnessing the wheelworks of nature".  seriously. this opensource, d-i-y, off-the-shelf-equipment-using modification , can give  energy savings, and overunity, because it works with nature! it is all about tuning to resonance.

this is all that i can say about this for now. seriously. PLEASE DISSEMINATE THIS.

also, here are some links to three documents that will advance your knowledge:
they are from http://panacea-bocaf.org/RotoVerter.htm

here:
http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/RV%20energy%20saving%20applications%20and%20R%20and%20D.pdf
http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/RE-OU-v6_1.pdf
http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/Advanced%20RV%20Research%20and%20development.pdf


Panacea's Replication of the RV 

Although I am not working and or experienced by trade in electricity, power engineering or this advanced field of Energy Transformation, I Ashtweth along with another helping engineer took the time to replicate the Roto Verter and learn its theory and operation.

This was with the help of my new found, technically brilliant, altruistic friends from around the world. These warriors of truth, are members of Doug Konzen's free-energy Yahoo Group ‘EVGRAY’ on the internet.  
 
Panacea's replication of the RV is further proof of two principles,  the first is related to the capacity the RV has in relation to energy saving R and D which is available to be applied into applications by the public right now.
 

The other is in relation to over unity R an D which proves that EXCESS ENERGY IS PRESENT in the RV and is in need of further study to be extracted. 

The RV is needing further testing and study in Panacea's non profit research and development centre for to advance further at this stage. The following will be a basic summery of the results, for complete technical detail please refer to the technical E-books listed in the introduction.

Energy savings

Using the 50 hertz RV in a .8- 1.13 HP motor application is a superior energy saver device which can be applied right now to run more efficiently: a lathe, a milling machine, an industrial bench drill or any other variable load machine which the RV can operate  and save up to 90% energy!

The RV is the only method of power management which allows also allows practical solar cogeneration use of the above mentioned applications. Other energy saving roles are possible, please read the technical compilation that Panacea's engineers completed for further detail.

The energy savings that the RV proves is unique and also is a pioneer of future solar shop cogeneration which will enable the practical application of solar shop equipment where previously it would be financially impossible and impractical. The non RV equivalent is estimated to need 10 times the solar panels to function.

 All current industry machinery which employ variable loads by .8-1.13 HP electric motors can be run SIGNIFICANTLY more efficient in RV Mode and SAVE ENERGY, money and the environment!.

 A normal one HP electric motor pictured below typically unloaded idles on 1.84 amps at 240 volts. When loaded uses 4.78 amps at 240 volts =1147 watts. This is at about an 80% + efficiency. 

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A normal one HP electric motor

Below is Panacea's replication of .8-1.13 1 HP (horse power) RV modified motor, if used in an identical role the motor will draw only 160 Watts when idling! and when loaded at 1HP, is estimated to be about at a 94+% constant efficiency.

Panacea's replication showing a BALDORS RV motor modified

for energy saving applications.

It is time the public mandate law to upgrade and enforce electric motor standards to match the RV's energy saving efficiency to do critically needy environmental benefit, and save the public energy and money!.

 This data needs to upgrade efficiency standards in industry, the energy savings the RV proves is premise to mandate law to make electric motors more environmentally sound. Green politicians and the public need to enforce this and support Panacea's efforts to serve you for a sustainable future. If you are an industry worker which uses machinery, a member of the public or a Green politician Please contact Panacea.

The RV is the most efficient 1-1.8HP energy saving electric motor modification in the world and is available to be instantly and cost effectively done to existing motor technology from off the shelf parts.

 Also this scientific discovery will allow solar use (where previously it would of been financially impractical) in RV Drill, lathes, punchers, rotary presses, planners, saws, cutters, air compressors, vacuums & others which can be optimized to lowest more effective power usage.

In solar it means using much less power cells more effectively, this means cost effective usage in 3rd world nations, water well pumps, grain grinders , & general machine use applications. Free solar energy for poorer nations can compete with greater economic Power more effectively used applications where previously it would be impractical.

The RV technology is public knowledge, and I encourage all people that use machinery with rotary punch or solar cogeneration to now save money and energy by using the RV's open sourced technology disclosure in their business. And to further commit towards the engineers goals of free energy and focus helping the youth to live free from subjugation and greener. Donate for Panacea.

Update- A recent open sourced engineer has reported successful extraction results of the resonance. This will enable development of self sustianing power system!.

 

David Kous resonance recovery system (esa says: this is the NeonPeak circuit built)

Panacea has included these instruciton in the advanced RV research and development compilations listed at the start of the page. This descovery has only been possible by the open sourced engieers colaberating together and working collectivelyvia open soucred disclosure.


The only way to make free green energy a reality is through open source technology and through the engineers committed and experienced to do it. Your input is the  needed with grants. PUBLIC funded, publicly disclosed, and free to the public. With out your public input, it will only stagnate.
 
This device proves many things, The most important for now is that we have the capacity to develop higher efficient green energy systems and keep them in open sourced public disclosure or public knowledge.

 

The RV, Trans-verter and related co-generation RV technology all will be perfected in Panacea's centre. Please contribute to public free energy, support your non profit org, donate and sign the petitions!

 


 

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this is all i can say.

seriously. tell people about this.

more info at http://panacea-bocaf.org/RotoVerter.htm

 


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dbroadwell : Monk, Imagineer, Human.
3 days later
dbroadwell said

What you are doing is called power factor correction. It increases instant startup current, but reduces runtime current.

Electrical engineers will tell you that it does not change the energy required. This is both true, and false.

True because at the end of the day, you are spinning a load, and it takes a finite amount of power to move mass.

False because once you 'correct' that, you are no longer effecting how your house (or building) looks to the power company and buying just the real power.

I'll get you the details later, it IS a good idea and at any real scale, even a good wood shop, the power bill will be lower.

I can get into the dynamics of why, but … to make a long story short. the power company charges for the 'reflected power' that the capacitive tuning eliminates.

esaruoho : a human archive
5 days later
esaruoho said

here are comments to your comment, from the creator of Rotoverter.


> dbroadwell said
> What you are doing is called power factor correction. It increases instant  startup current,
>but reduces runtime current.
power factor correction is having the curent and voltage in phase
being in phase is a power factor of 1 or Unity .

> I'll get you the details later, it IS a good idea and at any real scale, even a good wood
> shop, the power bill will be lower.
RV works in hi impedance modes that go beyond a mere power factor correction ,were as a fact is energy to mechanical energy transformation device with minimal loss ..

RV compared to standard motor aplication.

> I can get into the dynamics of why, but … to make a long story short. the power company
> charges for the 'reflected power' that the capacitive tuning eliminates.
That is why hi impedance  impedance matching is used …

dbroadwell : Monk, Imagineer, Human.
5 days later
dbroadwell said

So riding a VSWR driving harmonic on the resonance tuned motor … ?

Ah, just like a good old analog oscillating amplifier but with a spinning component where the voltages across the windings at harmonics are higher than the input signal. Very clean. Not 'free' but certianly devilishly efficent and subject to local EM and power noise.

You still pay to drive the mechanical load, but let the wave mechanics eat the waste.

(go ahead and have him contact this nic directlly @gmail.com, complex systems are fun. Coupled signal harmonic, electromagnetic, and mechanical simulation is out of the range of most EE ppl. It's a very fringe case of finite element analysis.)

esaruoho : a human archive
5 days later
esaruoho said

ive sent your message forward. he also sent this before i got your message: im editing it slightly..

Tell them to see RV compared to normal motors, ASH panacea videos
…. Power factor is another issue apart from RV main power saving issues..  RV PF is tuned to UNITY … (1)  even its main internal rotation dynamics are semy- resonant  .

Its relative from the point of measurement ,but fact is it saves over 90% energy iddling …

in the 60CPS lab models .
40W iddling   250-550W loaded 97%-200%eff   (as basic drill duty …)
IF the power factor arguments persist - the cure is inverter  with 12.7 VDC car battery source  (2 identical) one runing an RV and the other runing standard motor …

The measurment is done in DC amps from DC volts - power factor arguments are totally trashed…

The batterys are hydrometer tested and equalized prior to a test in any open system using identical inverters .

the 2 systems can be compared  all bullshit is eliminated …

If one thing I have done is given also testing methods to eliminate any posibility of error in this science .

(anyone try argument  power factor on pure DC source ) - not succesful argument

RV main aplication use is in solar energy power management were I demostrated to military brass 100% efficiency in solar to utility power grid conversion..

so I am talking history and experience not mere ..”theoretics”

As allways “the lab is the tool to use” looking for answers instead of getting stoped by theoretical problems of no significance in this R&D .

POWER FACTOR is itself the source of “overunity” …
What is power loss practice in RV is made into gain …
Hector :)

esaruoho : a human archive
6 days later
esaruoho said

also, what do you think of this?

“I read all these post everyday and keep coming back to the same conclusion in that all of you guys should follow Hectors advise and really explore and thoroughly understand the world of resonance. Especially the area of “hyper Q” resonant states in a circuit where XL and XC totally cancel leaving R as the only factor to be considered. Go back and read Tesla very carefully and understand why he recommended hooking up resonant circuits with buss bar size conductors minimizing the R in the tank circuit where you want to tap energy from the high circulating currents present. The MRA and RV share this phenomenon of very high circulating currents when driven at HYPER Q state. Just take a look at the “Universal Resonant Curve” and understand the “loss less region” under the curve. Just a researcher note. Norm”(Thats norman wootan)

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